'Just World News' with Helena Cobban: Shimon Peres loses his marbles

'Just World News' with Helena Cobban Info, analysis, discussion-- to build a more just world
« Recruiting More Warriors \| JWN front page \| UN official says Israel violated a truce Saturday » Shimon Peres loses his marbles Posted by Helena Cobban December 30, 2008 11:49 AM EST \| Link Filed in Palestine 2008 Shimon Peres, current occupant of the largely ceremonial role as Israel's president, father of Israel's atomic bomb, author of its disastrous and very damaging mini-war against Lebanon in 1996, and Nobel Peace Laureate (go figure), has finally lost his marbles. He told reporters today that the goal of Israel's current assault against Gaza is " not just to stop the continuing rocket fire from Gaza, but to put a halt to terror worldwide." Sadly, no-one in the media event he was speaking at (alongside IDF chief of staff Gabi Ashkenazi) seems to have asked Peres just how, precisely, Israel's current paroxysm of violence against Gaza might be expected to have the stated effect. The tragic experience of the US's 2003 "shock and awe" assault against Iraq was that it fomented and incubated considerable additional levels of terrorism worldwide. Israel's current assault on Gaza can be expected to have an exactly similar effect. But Israel's politicians and their many supporters in the US political elite all seem to live in their own little bubble-world of unreality, where the mere invocation of the word "terrorism" is enough to justify anything. Luckily, the residents of that bubble-world are becoming less influential in world affairs with each day that passes. « Recruiting More Warriors \| JWN front page \| UN official says Israel violated a truce Saturday » Comments Comment from... Joseph, at December 30, 2008 01:04 PM: Just read your article from 9/13/01. You should've quit while you were ahead. Comment from... Frank al Irlandi, at December 30, 2008 01:16 PM: Somebody has taken a sanity pill. BBC News is reporting that consideration is being given to a temporary cessation in the attacks. 18.15 UK time. Comment from... Salah, at December 30, 2008 01:45 PM: But Israel's politicians and their many supporters in the US political elite all Helena, looks you underestimateing the support of US as astste and as a nation to Israel. Its not just US political elite, its vast and more robust support by mainstream US citizen, religious figures from all sec. so on and so forth. This for decades not more changes happened. if you hear some start spoken here and their that just very small fraction voices in the forest. Comment from... mike, at December 30, 2008 01:47 PM: "The tragic experience of the US's 2003 "shock and awe" assault against Iraq was that it fomented and incubated considerable additional levels of terrorism worldwide. Israel's current assault on Gaza can be expected to have an exactly similar effect." How can you compare a totally illegal and illegitimate attack that murdered well over a million people with a legitimate and legal act of defense that has cost, at worst, a few thousand casualties. There simply is no comparison of any sort between the two actions. The US is a genuine terrorist nation, that, under the control of the Christians, has committed numerous genocides around the world during past decades. The death toll is over ten million and counting. Israel is a small nation that seeks only to live in peace. It is defending itself from neighbors who have declared war (for no reason) and who openly state their desire to steal Israeli land and murder all Israelis. To compare the two is beyond bizarre. But each to his own. Comment from... Frank al Irlandi, at December 30, 2008 01:55 PM: Well done Mr Kouchner http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article5420288.ece Salah Have a look at my link from the Kudos to Jackson Diehl Post. You might be surprised. Comment from... KDJ, at December 30, 2008 02:59 PM: Helena, While this takes place, the repurcussions of the Gaza attacks are adroitly discussed by Lebanese/Canadian Journalist/Scholar Hicham Safieddine. http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article10071.shtml FYI, KDJ Comment from... worldpeace, at December 30, 2008 03:43 PM: What is happening in Gaza and around the Arab and Muslim world is not the fault of US aggression, but the lack of unity on the Arab side. The Israelis are the executers of the colonial powers they are the whores who take orders from their masters . While Arab leaders are another species of whores who will do anything to keep tied to their titles. The latter sacrifice their people, on the other hand the Israelis are sacrificing their souls. For sure we will all be winners if we stopped this nonsense. People ask why was Abraham ordered to sacrifice his son by a loving GOD ? Did Abraham executed the order ? or was he wise? We make choices, let us stop this massacre for the sake of humanity. Comment from... Salah, at December 31, 2008 05:01 AM: "The tragic experience of the US's 2003 "shock and awe" assault against Iraq was that it fomented and incubated considerable additional levels of terrorism worldwide. Israel's current assault on Gaza can be expected to have an exactly similar effect." I 2nd mike thoughts about above Helena's hilarious statement. I add here Iraq invasion and the distractions of state of Iraq was for Israel to be free to do the rest in ME. Although some like Scott thinks Iran may be next target for US, the fact is Syria will the next target, the next war needs time we all waiting for next war. Helena you need to understand that your words can not change any things in our world or in your nation history of terrorists, neither Quaker nor any one can change what US and Israel have in common, in fact US/Israel same coin different face.	Recent Posts on JWN • My IPS piece on dimming peace prospects (1) • Rahm Emanuel's disturbing view of US role (26) • Obama's peacemaking pledge-- to the world (35) • Obama: Peace in US interest (5) • Discussing Palestine, Israel, Iraq on Bloggingheads (0) • Long knives, Washington, Afghanistan, part 2 (7) • Long knives out in Washington over Afghanistan (3) • Amal Saad-Ghorayeb responds (10) • NATO and Lebanon (16) • IPS piece on Obama-Netanyahu tussle over priorities (0) • Gaza police and noncombatant immunity (46) • Gaza, the Obama administration, and the present (4) • Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, "benchmarks" (2) • Barak: Iran not existential threat (0) • Garlasco, suspended with full pay (15) • Me, speaking Sept 24 at Middle East Institute (3) • Goldstone Commission reports on Gaza-war war-crimes (23) • Another blunt No from Netanyahu (30) • Ramadan t.v. offerings, 2009 (2) • I-P: Borders first-- and fast? (4) • A testimony the world needs to hear (2) • Garlasco, part 3 (32) • Malley on refugees, settlers, etc (7) • In 2009, as 2001: US needs Iran, Russia (3) • IPS piece on the rights war over Gaza (3) • Garlasco, part 2 (20) • Continuing bad news for US/NATO in Afghanistan (4) • Marc Garlasco's little "hobby" (71) • Trashing one-staters with Hussein Ibish (12) • 500 new settlement homes in Jerusalem... (12) • When election results are disputed: Afghanistan, etc (6) • B'tselem's figures on Gaza assault toll (8) • American power has limits? Who knew? (13) • Israel's assault on Gaza: The final toll (1) • Hamas-related negotiations moving forward? (1) • Sweden, and the Israel-linked organs story (18) • Qtube-- what a resource! (2) • Cook and Elam on Israel's organ-removal problems (48) • "The White House regrets... " (48) • Lessons from the Soviet experience in Afghanistan (9) • IPS analysis of Iraq and related regional tensions (1) • Visser goes 2.0 (8) • More on Norway's targeted divestment (14) • Pat Lang on the dangerous, continued rise of 'COIN'-mania (8) • Bravo, Norway! (6) • An exiled Palestinian visits "home" (20) • Israel releases nine of 32 Hamas legislators (2) • Why Blair wants Dahlan to retake Gaza? (0) • Afghanistan debate: The missing international ingredient (9) • State-building: Palestine (3)

Shimon Peres loses his marbles

Posted by Helena Cobban
December 30, 2008 11:49 AM EST | Link
Filed in Palestine 2008

Shimon Peres, current occupant of the largely ceremonial role as Israel's president, father of Israel's atomic bomb, author of its disastrous and very damaging mini-war against Lebanon in 1996, and Nobel Peace Laureate (go figure), has finally lost his marbles.

He told reporters today that the goal of Israel's current assault against Gaza is " not just to stop the continuing rocket fire from Gaza, but to put a halt to terror worldwide."

Sadly, no-one in the media event he was speaking at (alongside IDF chief of staff Gabi Ashkenazi) seems to have asked Peres just how, precisely, Israel's current paroxysm of violence against Gaza might be expected to have the stated effect.

The tragic experience of the US's 2003 "shock and awe" assault against Iraq was that it fomented and incubated considerable additional levels of terrorism worldwide. Israel's current assault on Gaza can be expected to have an exactly similar effect.

But Israel's politicians and their many supporters in the US political elite all seem to live in their own little bubble-world of unreality, where the mere invocation of the word "terrorism" is enough to justify anything.

Luckily, the residents of that bubble-world are becoming less influential in world affairs with each day that passes.

Comments

Comment from... Joseph, at December 30, 2008 01:04 PM:

Just read your article from 9/13/01. You should've quit while you were ahead.

Comment from... Frank al Irlandi, at December 30, 2008 01:16 PM:

Somebody has taken a sanity pill.

BBC News is reporting that consideration is being given to a temporary cessation in the attacks. 18.15 UK time.

Comment from... Salah, at December 30, 2008 01:45 PM:

But Israel's politicians and their many supporters in the US political elite all

Helena, looks you underestimateing the support of US as astste and as a nation to Israel.

Its not just US political elite, its vast and more robust support by mainstream US citizen, religious figures from all sec. so on and so forth. This for decades not more changes happened.

if you hear some start spoken here and their that just very small fraction voices in the forest.

Comment from... mike, at December 30, 2008 01:47 PM:

"The tragic experience of the US's 2003 "shock and awe" assault against Iraq was that it fomented and incubated considerable additional levels of terrorism worldwide. Israel's current assault on Gaza can be expected to have an exactly similar effect."

How can you compare a totally illegal and illegitimate attack that murdered well over a million people with a legitimate and legal act of defense that has cost, at worst, a few thousand casualties. There simply is no comparison of any sort between the two actions.

The US is a genuine terrorist nation, that, under the control of the Christians, has committed numerous genocides around the world during past decades. The death toll is over ten million and counting. Israel is a small nation that seeks only to live in peace. It is defending itself from neighbors who have declared war (for no reason) and who openly state their desire to steal Israeli land and murder all Israelis. To compare the two is beyond bizarre. But each to his own.

Comment from... Frank al Irlandi, at December 30, 2008 01:55 PM:

Well done Mr Kouchner

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article5420288.ece

Salah

Have a look at my link from the Kudos to Jackson Diehl Post. You might be surprised.

Comment from... KDJ, at December 30, 2008 02:59 PM:

Helena,

While this takes place, the repurcussions of the Gaza attacks are adroitly discussed by Lebanese/Canadian Journalist/Scholar Hicham Safieddine.

http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article10071.shtml

FYI,
KDJ

Comment from... worldpeace, at December 30, 2008 03:43 PM:

What is happening in Gaza and around the Arab and Muslim world is not the fault of US aggression, but the lack of unity on the Arab side.

The Israelis are the executers of the colonial powers they are the whores who take orders from their masters .

While Arab leaders are another species of whores who will do anything to keep tied to their titles.

The latter sacrifice their people, on the other hand the Israelis are sacrificing their souls.

For sure we will all be winners if we stopped this nonsense.

People ask why was Abraham ordered to sacrifice his son by a loving GOD ?

Did Abraham executed the order ? or was he wise?

We make choices, let us stop this massacre for the sake of humanity.

Comment from... Salah, at December 31, 2008 05:01 AM:

I 2nd mike thoughts about above Helena's hilarious statement.

I add here Iraq invasion and the distractions of state of Iraq was for Israel to be free to do the rest in ME.

Although some like Scott thinks Iran may be next target for US, the fact is Syria will the next target, the next war needs time we all waiting for next war.

Helena you need to understand that your words can not change any things in our world or in your nation history of terrorists, neither Quaker nor any one can change what US and Israel have in common, in fact US/Israel same coin different face.