'Just World News' with Helena Cobban

You can't. The more atrocities that happen, the more denial they'll come up with. To break the feedback loop would take media exposure that doesn't exist anymore.

Since Bushco went to great lengths to link Saddam with 9/11 in the minds of soldiers, this is all about revenge. How else is the continuing brutalization of the Iraqi people explained in any other way?

These are war crimes.

Bad taste. Haram. Indecent. Human bodies are off-limits for press and blog exploitation, even if the deceased were plausible combatants. If you support Geneva Conventions, then you indeed must not use corpses in your press or propaganda.

Soldiering is an inherently awful thing, which is precisely why people shroud it, like death in general, with so much hoary myth and piety. However, there's more than that at stake here.

Your http://dahrjamailiraq.com source states:

"Two weeks ago someone was allowed into Fallujah by the military to help bury bodies. They were allowed to take photographs of 75 bodies, in order to show pictures to relatives so that they might be identified before they were buried."

If so, then why are the pictures posted on the Web, rather than shared in private to returning Fallujans?

Dahr Jamail will publish anything that inflames anti-American sentiment, even bodies of corpses. The site is replete with every nasty thing seen, heard, or invented: Americans compared to Nazis, insurgents compared to anti-fascist patriots, allegations that the US causes the street bombings to foment war between Sunni and Shia. The site presents the American occupation as THE problem in Iraq.

It is one thing to say Americans have done things wrong, or that the slated elections need revision or follow-up in order to protect the Sunni minority, but another thing simply to pile up recrimminations against the US.

The BLOG says nothing constructive about how valid elections might be held or of how security might be restore so that the US could leave. In essence, it is pure anti US incitement.

As someone else has written,

"Many bloggers are complaining from a liberal point of view about the downsides of the use of force. They are completely uninterested in the activities of the Baathist and radical Sunni guerrillas holed up in Fallujah. They are uninterested in whether these guerrillas terrorized the local population."

http://www.juancole.com/2004/11/fallujah-report-and.html

Dahr Jamail (and JWN, to the extent is publicizes such views) fits the following:

"At least a part of the Western left -- or rather the Western far left -- is now so anti-American, or so anti-Bush, that it actually prefers authoritarian or totalitarian leaders to any government that would be friendly to the United States. Many of the same people who found it hard to say anything bad about Saddam Hussein find it equally difficult to say anything nice about pro-democracy demonstrators in Ukraine. Many of the same people who would refuse to condemn a dictator who is anti-American cannot bring themselves to admire democrats who admire, or at least don't hate, the United States. I certainly don't believe, as President Bush sometimes simplistically says, that everyone who disagrees with American policies in Iraq or elsewhere 'hates freedom.' That's why it's so shocking to discover that some of them do."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A23721-2004Nov30.html

It would be a relief to see at least some acknowledgment that the Fallujah insurgents are NOT incipient "freedom fighters."

See: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=540&ncid=736&e=9&u=/ap/20041202/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_torture_chamber

The FCNL notion that the US should simply take its troops out of Iraq, yet somehow reconstruct it, is a non sequitur. There can be no elections or reconstruction without order. There can be no order if people are shooting and bombing the police. There can be no efficient or neat apprehension of insurgents who wear no uniforms and whose neighbors and relatives, fearing reprisals, dare not report.

Dahr Jamail / JWN has loads about carnage or abuse attributed to the US, but nary a remark about who is forcing the US to take actions in Fallujah and elsewhere. The insurgents are not a gentile “good government league.” They know no due process other than that practiced under Saddam: kill whoever opposes you, plus as many relatives as needed to teach a lesson.

Geneva Convention rules are a good idea, but hard enough to enforce in a conventional war. What to do when your opponent wears no uniform and deliberately uses mosques, schools, and children for military purposes? Contrary to some DJ / JWN allegations, I think the US tries, where it can, to uphold standards better than the enemy’s.

See: http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=&article=13576&archive=true

Unfortunately, the conduct of troops in action or on patrol, who are at risk of death, and who face constant threats and confusion, cannot be detached, reflective, or error proof.

Had the US never invaded Iraq and simply lifted trade sanctions, Dahr Jamail (unless comfortably ensconced in Saddam's Office of Public Information) would probably be at one with the anti-global, green, Euro-Left in deriding the moral bankruptcy of the capitalist US and its abandonment of human rights in exchange for oil.

John Koch wrote:

"The site presents the American occupation as THE problem in Iraq."

It IS THE PROBLEM, John. What planet are you living on?

PP

John Koch presents the recommendations of the Friends Committee on National Legislation (FCNL) as "the US should simply take its troops out of Iraq, yet somehow reconstruct it" This is not correct.

What Does FCNL Advocate Now?

As the possibility for a democratic, peaceful Iraq emerging from the churning chaos becomes increasingly remote, many policymakers in Washington are looking for a way out of the quagmire. Policy think tanks as diverse as the Center for American Progress, the Institute for Policy Studies, and the CATO Institute have been calling for an exit strategy. On September 10, an editorial in The Financial Times announced, “Time to Consider Iraq Withdrawal.” While proposals differ on what a U.S. exit from Iraq would look like, they all point to the same question facing this and the next Congress and White House: In the midst of escalating violence, how can the U.S. support the creation of a sovereign, peaceful Iraq and bring its troops home safely?

Military solutions will not resolve the dilemma. Policy solutions will not be easy to identify or implement. Neither proclamations that the U.S. must be resolute and stay the course-a course which has clearly failed-nor calls for immediate withdrawal of all troops address the difficult realities of the disaster that the U.S. has created in Iraq. No matter what choices are made now, the long string of failures and mistakes by the U.S. have done lasting, irreversible damage.

Still, significant policy changes now could help reduce the violence, create space for Iraqis to build their own future, and pave the way for full withdrawal of U.S. troops.

Specifically, FCNL recommends:

* The U.S. immediately end offensive military operations in Iraq and withdraw its troops from urban areas.

* The U.S. relinquish control over security, economic reconstruction, and the political transition to the interim Iraqi government.

* The administration submit to Congress and the U.S. public a comprehensive plan for a responsible withdrawal from Iraq. The plan should include a full accounting of the costs and steps for fulfilling U.S. obligations under international law while ending the occupation.

* Congress reallocate reconstruction aid in Iraq away from large U.S. contractors toward Iraqi-led projects and local job creation.

* Congress establish an independent investigation into abuses by U.S. military and civilian personnel and contractors at Abu Ghraib, Guantanamo, Afghanistan, and other places of detentions in the "war on terror."

* The U.S. state publicly that it has no plans to establish long-term or permanent military bases in Iraq. Such a commitment is needed to alleviate fears in the region that the U.S. is seeking new bases to secure access to Middle East oil.

* The administration redouble efforts to establish and support an international protection force for the UN elections team and other UN civilian staff.

* Congress use its power of the purse to condition any future funding for operations in Iraq on these policy changes.

John Koch - can't handle the truth, much? Quit your mongering and pray for these people and their families.

"Lie down with dogs, get up with fleas." I don't know if we in America are scratching yet, but maybe we will soon.
The dogs of war were unleashed by liars, but they do not rampage here in America yet. Nor do I wish them to do so.
I would recommend that the film "Missing" be shown again as a protest against our government's interference in other countries, as well as the cold-blooded attitude on the part of the power seekers of national security state (or whatever they call it now) in pursuit of its aims. Anyone standing in its way is fair game.
But the group in power now is part of a dynasty going back to Nixon. There are some habitual players and criminals in the pack. They must be removed from US power or we can have Fallujah's in America. Talk about your "threats to national security". Illegal wars have to be the worst and most unconstitutional kind.

John Koch wrote:

"nary a remark about who is forcing the US to take actions in Fallujah"

That's a familiar, if peculiar, line of thought . . . somehow reminiscent of how the Palestinians "force" Israel to build settlements in the West Bank and kill little girls in Gaza.

They must be pretty powerful people, those Fallujans, "forcing" all those US Marines to travel all the way from Texas, or whatever hellhole they come from, to destroy a city, and kill old men, and women, and children.

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